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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by Frank Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though observing evolution is usually like watching something that can take eons, it seems we are living in a time when history and the evolution of humanity seeming is transpiring at an accelerated rate, doesn&#039;t it?. For those paying attn, this is exciting and astounding but I submit there are those who don&#039;t or can&#039;t see this, so preoccupied with the nittty-gritty of living to notice or care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though observing evolution is usually like watching something that can take eons, it seems we are living in a time when history and the evolution of humanity seeming is transpiring at an accelerated rate, doesn&#8217;t it?. For those paying attn, this is exciting and astounding but I submit there are those who don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t see this, so preoccupied with the nittty-gritty of living to notice or care.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do we know what we know? by here</title>
		<link>http://evolutionaryphilosophy.com/2010/05/27/how-do-we-know-what-we-know/#comment-3676</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 05:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had been wondering if you ever thought of changing the page layout of your site? It is very well written; I enjoy what youve got to say. But maybe you can include a a bit more in the way of written content so people can connect to it better. Youve got a great deal of text for only having one or two pictures. Maybe you could space it out better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been wondering if you ever thought of changing the page layout of your site? It is very well written; I enjoy what youve got to say. But maybe you can include a a bit more in the way of written content so people can connect to it better. Youve got a great deal of text for only having one or two pictures. Maybe you could space it out better?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by liesbeth3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liesbeth3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Catherine!! I will look for it. Thank you so much for contributing. It is always so inspiring    and such a joy to read!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Catherine!! I will look for it. Thank you so much for contributing. It is always so inspiring    and such a joy to read!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by portailevolutif</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 10:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Liesbeth, sounds that our comments crossed. You got it perfectly right, which  I am impressed !! Bravo !!  If you like this type of philosopher, have also a look at the work of Gilles Deleuze. He is supposed to be one of the very few neo Bergsonian post modern philosophers, he is pretty good. I feel Ken Wilber likes him too an that he is his  bridge into Bergson which he has been for many contemporary philosophers.  In France he was so famous that when he gave lectures at the Sorbonne,  it was impossible to enter the room since it was too packed, people were  jumping at the window to listen to him !  He was a  really great  intellectual with  huge dose of humility as well. 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_Deleuze]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Liesbeth, sounds that our comments crossed. You got it perfectly right, which  I am impressed !! Bravo !!  If you like this type of philosopher, have also a look at the work of Gilles Deleuze. He is supposed to be one of the very few neo Bergsonian post modern philosophers, he is pretty good. I feel Ken Wilber likes him too an that he is his  bridge into Bergson which he has been for many contemporary philosophers.  In France he was so famous that when he gave lectures at the Sorbonne,  it was impossible to enter the room since it was too packed, people were  jumping at the window to listen to him !  He was a  really great  intellectual with  huge dose of humility as well.<br />
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by Jeff Carreira</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Carreira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 10:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Catherine, You are indeed so right. I neglected to mention Bergson who was also a good friend of William James and who shared many similar points of view to those expressed here. I am not as familiar with Bergson although Creative Evolution is on my reading list for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Catherine, You are indeed so right. I neglected to mention Bergson who was also a good friend of William James and who shared many similar points of view to those expressed here. I am not as familiar with Bergson although Creative Evolution is on my reading list for sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 09:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bergson and Proust were brothers in law. The story says that Proust s main theme of sensation memory associated to the ultimate sense of identity is due to the influence of Bergson. Identity is felt in the present moment with duration or in memory like in Proust s Madeleine. Both are completely orthogonal ways of perceiving the I.  A bit like a quantum dichotomy here. Animals have the sense of duration which is a memory linked to action and apprenticeship. Like you learn how to... bike read drive make love etc... The second type of memory also linked to our sense of identity is due to formal knowledge and is specific to human consciousness. It is the reminiscence of the &quot; madeleine&quot; the small cake Proust ate as a kid and which delight he &quot; remembered&quot; 30years later when a friend invited him for tea. The &quot; delight&quot; had precisely the same taste as the kid s cake. This reminiscence brought back his true Self to him. The whole Bergsonian theory with the two types of memory inbricatedinto one another is powerful. Note that the second type of memory is based on static reminiscence hence close to our perception of the ground of being or what I called the skeleton of Reality : it doesn t change or move at all. The first type linked to duration is the opposite it is in movement always changing and improving. Reality is a couple of paradoxical variable in a very similar way as described by Quantum Mechanic. Hope this conveys how great Bergson is. His followers very famous like Deleuze claim that they didnt yet got over him. He is still ahead... According to his best specialists ! That almost unbearable hierarchy which we can only address with love and respect]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bergson and Proust were brothers in law. The story says that Proust s main theme of sensation memory associated to the ultimate sense of identity is due to the influence of Bergson. Identity is felt in the present moment with duration or in memory like in Proust s Madeleine. Both are completely orthogonal ways of perceiving the I.  A bit like a quantum dichotomy here. Animals have the sense of duration which is a memory linked to action and apprenticeship. Like you learn how to&#8230; bike read drive make love etc&#8230; The second type of memory also linked to our sense of identity is due to formal knowledge and is specific to human consciousness. It is the reminiscence of the &#8221; madeleine&#8221; the small cake Proust ate as a kid and which delight he &#8221; remembered&#8221; 30years later when a friend invited him for tea. The &#8221; delight&#8221; had precisely the same taste as the kid s cake. This reminiscence brought back his true Self to him. The whole Bergsonian theory with the two types of memory inbricatedinto one another is powerful. Note that the second type of memory is based on static reminiscence hence close to our perception of the ground of being or what I called the skeleton of Reality : it doesn t change or move at all. The first type linked to duration is the opposite it is in movement always changing and improving. Reality is a couple of paradoxical variable in a very similar way as described by Quantum Mechanic. Hope this conveys how great Bergson is. His followers very famous like Deleuze claim that they didnt yet got over him. He is still ahead&#8230; According to his best specialists ! That almost unbearable hierarchy which we can only address with love and respect</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by liesbeth3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 09:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked it up Catherine, you are so right..

Bergson says that during the day we create stories (pick out relevant aspects) to fulfill the need of our bodies, it is a tool of life. Our mind acts according to the need of our bodies, it is daily self that acts practically as part of a spatially homogeneous universe. He calls this the superficial self; it necessarily expresses itself in worlds and thinks in time, it classifies objects, solves problems. Both our observation and our language try to pick from reality aspects that are relevant for our practical needs, the rest (of reality) it leaves out of the way. Bergson connects the superficial mind with a cinematographic mechanism, it dissolves motion, picks out images and reconstructs them. This is caused by the utilitarianism of our mind. Our intellect produces what would be common to do next (based on knowledge from the past). Science brings this to to highest level: it can predict what is coming, it only deals with repetition. Science looks for elements that are a reproduction of the past. The past only exists in our memory, that is why the superficial self thinks in symmetrical time (past-now -future). 

As different from intellect, Bergson mentioned intuition, which is unique and unspeakable; it is about the world as it is, without the utilitarian function of the mind. It is about direct knowledge, which we cannot communicate. Intuitive insight as opposite to analytical thinking. It is real knowledge as opposite to abstract concepts of reality. The real self is not a tool of life, individually or socially, this deeper self cannot express itself in words. This is where we get in touch with Bergon’s time as ‘durée’. Here time is becoming, it is asymmetrical. Arthur Young on Youtube: ‘Bergson argued with Einstein and talked about the asymmetry of time – he anticipated quantum physics. The universe is not a structure in time and space, it is a structure in space that changed through time and you cannot anticipate. Bergson included novelty in becoming, he said there is a perpetual novelty occurring. There are drops of novelty on the line of time. This is why Bergson was rediscovered by process philosophers. Bergsons intuition is an aspect of the universal life force (Eros) that causes evolution, Intuition is the way we feel One with Eros the universal creative life force, that is God. Through intuition we are aware of the Divine impulse in evolution and that is how we understand its function in the existence of the cosmos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked it up Catherine, you are so right..</p>
<p>Bergson says that during the day we create stories (pick out relevant aspects) to fulfill the need of our bodies, it is a tool of life. Our mind acts according to the need of our bodies, it is daily self that acts practically as part of a spatially homogeneous universe. He calls this the superficial self; it necessarily expresses itself in worlds and thinks in time, it classifies objects, solves problems. Both our observation and our language try to pick from reality aspects that are relevant for our practical needs, the rest (of reality) it leaves out of the way. Bergson connects the superficial mind with a cinematographic mechanism, it dissolves motion, picks out images and reconstructs them. This is caused by the utilitarianism of our mind. Our intellect produces what would be common to do next (based on knowledge from the past). Science brings this to to highest level: it can predict what is coming, it only deals with repetition. Science looks for elements that are a reproduction of the past. The past only exists in our memory, that is why the superficial self thinks in symmetrical time (past-now -future). </p>
<p>As different from intellect, Bergson mentioned intuition, which is unique and unspeakable; it is about the world as it is, without the utilitarian function of the mind. It is about direct knowledge, which we cannot communicate. Intuitive insight as opposite to analytical thinking. It is real knowledge as opposite to abstract concepts of reality. The real self is not a tool of life, individually or socially, this deeper self cannot express itself in words. This is where we get in touch with Bergon’s time as ‘durée’. Here time is becoming, it is asymmetrical. Arthur Young on Youtube: ‘Bergson argued with Einstein and talked about the asymmetry of time – he anticipated quantum physics. The universe is not a structure in time and space, it is a structure in space that changed through time and you cannot anticipate. Bergson included novelty in becoming, he said there is a perpetual novelty occurring. There are drops of novelty on the line of time. This is why Bergson was rediscovered by process philosophers. Bergsons intuition is an aspect of the universal life force (Eros) that causes evolution, Intuition is the way we feel One with Eros the universal creative life force, that is God. Through intuition we are aware of the Divine impulse in evolution and that is how we understand its function in the existence of the cosmos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 07:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey man don t forget Bergson here ! There are two forces the objective skeleton of reality and Bergson s duration in which evolution occurs. There is no Whitehead without Bergson. He is really an enormous master for these kind of considerations]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man don t forget Bergson here ! There are two forces the objective skeleton of reality and Bergson s duration in which evolution occurs. There is no Whitehead without Bergson. He is really an enormous master for these kind of considerations</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by Judy Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 00:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved reading this Jeff. It paints a picture of reality that is so much more fluid...not me here and the world out there, but an on-going interaction of between what might be called me and what might be called the world and even saying that, those concepts of me and the world begin to get wobbly...a loosening of one&#039;s &quot;grasp&quot; of one&#039;s reality that contains so many constructs that aren&#039;t real. It&#039;s a crumbling that is so welcomed! Thank you Jeff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading this Jeff. It paints a picture of reality that is so much more fluid&#8230;not me here and the world out there, but an on-going interaction of between what might be called me and what might be called the world and even saying that, those concepts of me and the world begin to get wobbly&#8230;a loosening of one&#8217;s &#8220;grasp&#8221; of one&#8217;s reality that contains so many constructs that aren&#8217;t real. It&#8217;s a crumbling that is so welcomed! Thank you Jeff.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Transformation of the Present Moment by liesbeth3i</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liesbeth3i]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading your post I had to think about the &#039;theater&#039; as hume described the &#039;self&#039; : the self is not an object of consciousnes, there is no &#039;identity&#039;. &#039;Self is the impressions we have, but no impression is permanent, constant or unchangeable. We are a bundel of perceptions which succeed one another in immense fastness. He used the metaphor of a theater, where different perceptions appear. When I looked it up, it seems to connect to the above..

Locke, Berkely and Hume turned the empirics of nature into philosophy of the human brain. The empirics said: our mental images only arrive through experience. In stead of all high ideas of the rationalists (who tried to explain truth that could be reached with thinking via logic and deduction), the empirics said: we are born with empty heads and only through experience we learn and start thinking. 

The early empirics said: that we can only know meaning, but never the object itself. A hammer is a good example: according to Locke there is primary and secondary perception. Primary connects to the categories of Aristotle, like size, weight, color, material, function etc., the secondary perception is is the subjective meaning we give to it like &#039;dangerous&#039; (for hurting yourself), a &#039;man&#039;s thing&#039;  etc. (this also connects to Heidegger;s &#039;lived experience&#039;). 

Connecting it with Hume: people never see the thing itself, the material substance, they only see features. All these different primary perceptions also have already subjective meanings, like red is different than black. We connect these primary perceptions in an instant into the idea of an object. It is not the object we see, it is its features, characteristics we see. 

According to Hume there are only three principles of association: important one is &#039;causality&#039; , this is very well known: if we see a billiard ball close to another and that one is going to move, we say the one &#039;cause the other&#039; even though there is no prove. Another one is similarity &#039; better, worse, higher, lower etc&#039;. How quickly we do this is shown for example in  the &#039; rating system for girls&#039; that was shown in the movie &#039;the social network&#039;. Our brain is constantly busy with associating primary perceptions into more complex one&#039;s.  These associations do not have to be logic or rational, but they can change very quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your post I had to think about the &#8216;theater&#8217; as hume described the &#8216;self&#8217; : the self is not an object of consciousnes, there is no &#8216;identity&#8217;. &#8216;Self is the impressions we have, but no impression is permanent, constant or unchangeable. We are a bundel of perceptions which succeed one another in immense fastness. He used the metaphor of a theater, where different perceptions appear. When I looked it up, it seems to connect to the above..</p>
<p>Locke, Berkely and Hume turned the empirics of nature into philosophy of the human brain. The empirics said: our mental images only arrive through experience. In stead of all high ideas of the rationalists (who tried to explain truth that could be reached with thinking via logic and deduction), the empirics said: we are born with empty heads and only through experience we learn and start thinking. </p>
<p>The early empirics said: that we can only know meaning, but never the object itself. A hammer is a good example: according to Locke there is primary and secondary perception. Primary connects to the categories of Aristotle, like size, weight, color, material, function etc., the secondary perception is is the subjective meaning we give to it like &#8216;dangerous&#8217; (for hurting yourself), a &#8216;man&#8217;s thing&#8217;  etc. (this also connects to Heidegger;s &#8216;lived experience&#8217;). </p>
<p>Connecting it with Hume: people never see the thing itself, the material substance, they only see features. All these different primary perceptions also have already subjective meanings, like red is different than black. We connect these primary perceptions in an instant into the idea of an object. It is not the object we see, it is its features, characteristics we see. </p>
<p>According to Hume there are only three principles of association: important one is &#8216;causality&#8217; , this is very well known: if we see a billiard ball close to another and that one is going to move, we say the one &#8217;cause the other&#8217; even though there is no prove. Another one is similarity &#8216; better, worse, higher, lower etc&#8217;. How quickly we do this is shown for example in  the &#8216; rating system for girls&#8217; that was shown in the movie &#8216;the social network&#8217;. Our brain is constantly busy with associating primary perceptions into more complex one&#8217;s.  These associations do not have to be logic or rational, but they can change very quickly.</p>
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